I compare the actual physical sensation of the stomach flip to the feeling of "losing your stomach" like on a rollercoaster or when you drive fast over a small hill. "Butterflies" isn't INaccurate, but it's not quite intense enough to describe the flip for me. And the flip is unique to my fetishes... I don't think I've ever experienced quite the same feeling while flirting.

To answer some of the earlier questions... no, I don't think I could ever orgasm because of the flip. For me at least, the flip is more akin to foreplay. However, I completely confuse myself with the whole fetish because although the flip is absolutely-positively-definitely a form of arousal (the "juices get flowing," as tearhunter put it), my fetish is largely emotions-based and I get the most pleasure out of comforting, vulnerability, emotional intimacy and all that. I wouldn't want it to lead to sex. The whole experience of comforting a crying guy is a sort of emotional sex, for me.

I'm not sure if giving a specific example is getting too detailed, so if it is, mods, please do let me know! But... a few years ago (and I posted an obs about this on the old forum) I comforted a crying guy for TWO HOURS. Haven't had an experience like that since, and it's burned into my memory (in a v-e-r-y good way.) During the experience, my mind and body had two separate reactions. My body went into full "arousal" mode and well, the juices were flowing. But I barely noticed it because my mind went into full "comforting" mode and all of my focus was on soothing the guy, not on pursuing the physical arousal. It wasn't until the incident was over and I took a moment to actually pay attention to myself (instead of to the guy) that I realized how intensely my body had reacted.

So, huh. What do you do with that? Ha. This really is a strange fetish that we have, isn't it?

YES!! I'm wired like that... what you said about wanting to protect a man instead of being protected by him... gahhhhhh yes. I want to "take care of" my man... not necessarily with cooking/cleaning/house-wifey stuff (I have a bit of a feminist streak in me), but with emotional things.

As Woundedpuppy said - yes I think we are getting to heart of things here - somehow I wondering if we have all been holding back a bit - hiding the sexual undertones of our fetish and how it hits in places that nothing else does. Little concerned we've hijacked SomeoneG1's welcome to the forum mind you - sorry!   

Reading your open and honest comments is amazing - it actually makes me a little envyous as it's clear female arousal and orgasm is a truely wonderful thing - a lot more complex than the male version - at least based on my experience - ours is still good though!

Woundedpuppy - no I don't experience butterflies at the same time as being turned. Butterflies for me are linked with apprehension or nerves, it's never associated with arousal. The 'stomach-flig' (love that name for it by the way) is something I don't get - kind if wish I did after reading all your posts. Arousal ignoring the obvious area for a second makes me feel 'live' - tingling all over - jumpy - warm inside - if that makes sense. But, no specific area of the body - with one exception. Is it because female sexual organs are internal that it effects you this way?

Other things turn me on besides female crying and tears which result in things getting pretty hard downstairs but watching a stunning girl cry with unchecked tears streaming down her face makes things go to another level. The erection I experience is incredible - it truely is as solid as a rock - I'm hyper senstive to touch and have all the feelings noted above. I've been lucky enough to make love to my wife while she has been crying - to date the most erotic experience ever! The erection I experienced was mind blowing - I could feel everything - being inside a woman while she is crying, sobbing a little - you feel those gasps from inside. The resulting orgasm was epic - I completely exploded. It must have been good for my wife as she orgasmed immediately after. Her orgasm actually increased her crying and as tears rolled between her breasts - that sight alone - caused me to explode for a second time (not east for a guy).

Obviously the above is rare (very rare unfortunately) - watching a video of an attractice female crying really turns me on which I need to relive not always with the help of woman! The resulting orgasms are equally as powerful - much more than any other sexual stimulation. Which I guess although different means I'm wired similar to you girls.

Seriously - one question (open to all of course); you say you get turned on to the point that the "juices are flowing" but you don't want it to lead to sex. If it did (with a guy or by yourself), do you think it would result in a quicker more intense orgasm ? Personally getting to the equivalent level of arousal (erection) I would be very frustrating not to satisfy it with some form of sexual activity.

Hope all this is not getting to descriptive - it's an amazing interesting topic !

I'm definitely wired like that, woundedpuppy. When I fantasize about men crying, it's always men that I'm sexually attracted to or that I'd want to have sex with. I've never had sex with a man while he was crying, but I've had sex with my boyfriend after a crying session (a couple hours after), and I definitely had a more intense orgasm more quickly. I remember him being shocked at just how turned on I was; he said he'd never seen/felt me quite that turned on before during sex. The act of masturbation also ties in with my fetish for me; I enjoy fantasizing about crying or employing the use of sound effects and/or nice videos. I feel sometimes that my fetish provides an even more intense arousal for me than regular sex, especially when I share it with my boyfriend, because it combines sexual AND emotional pleasure.

And woundedpuppy, I like what you said about non-bisexual women who like female crying (as I am one). I know that I'm sometimes turned on by the thought of my own crying, and maybe seeing other women cry is a manifestation of my own emotional release? I don't know. I know I'm also just interested in the physical aspect of crying. My fetish definitely started as male-oriented only, but when I started exploring female crying online, I developed an interest in it, sort of as an extension of the fetish I already had (since I was 4 or so). So I really have no idea why I'm so into female crying, which is weird because I'm usually very aware of why I feel certain things. lol. It's a mystery.

It's all just so linked together... physical and emotional arousal. When I have regular sex, I can often separate it into a solely physical thing (except that because I have a boyfriend, our sex is definitely romantic and emotional too... but it has a purely physical aspect). But with the crying fetish, it's all so twisted together. It's a full-body, full-minded experience for me.

I'm going to jump in here, as I haven't in a while, and say that I hadn't really noticed the "stomach flip" until it was brought up here. I don't really get a huge "flip", but I do get butterflies. I guess it is a sort of nervous reaction for me, as all the conflicting reactions and emotions come into play, and I also am nervous that I'll give myself away somehow. I have to be careful not to let my heart beat too fast if my boyfriend's head is on my chest. It's more like a full-torso tension.
The other complicating factor is that I can't (or haven't, rather) have orgasms from regular intercourse, only from manual stimulation. Which is a bummer. I still enjoy it, but I can't really "get there." Similarly, I don't think I could ever reach it just from comforting. At the time I have all the patience in the world and want it to last forever, but I never really get beyond that initial turned-on feeling. In the moment, it's not frustrating, but when I'm by myself later and thinking back on it, I have to "do" something with it, or else it's just a tease. I don't think I explained that very well....