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How weirdly specific (anal) I am regarding my dacryphilia
Here is a list of lip curling definitions that I've made up, based on my observations. There WILL be a quiz next week so study hard:
- The Semi-Lip Curler: Those whose bottom lip only curls while they cry with their mouth closed.
- The Occasional Lip Curler: Those who don't do the BLT while they cry....and then inexplicably DO do it. This is unrelated to how hard they are crying. Some will not do the BLT while crying hard but then do it while they're crying softly, and then do the exact opposite.
- The Lip Curler: Those who do the "proper" lip curl. With these people the bottom lip will curl majority of the time they cry, including if their mouth is open while they're crying. Even those who only curl their lip during more intense sobbing will fit this category.
The NON-lip curlers who may be mistaken for lip curlers:
- Those who only curl their lip while wiping their eyes: IT'S A TRAP! The mouth voluntarily does a downwards curve when someone wipes their eyes, to create more space around the eyes. The lip may curl at this point, but it is not a real BLT.
- Those who only curl their lip while taking as they cry: Women are more adept at talking and crying at the same time, based on my observations. Men on the other hand will generally pause from talking to cry. Taking while crying may force your lip to curl. But it is not a real BLT.
I will consider other theories 
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Lip Curler or not? Today I had a conversation with a woman I know quite a while, not a friend, but somebody I discuss private things with. She has chronical pain and we were talking many times about how she can deal with it: I never saw her cry. Today we had one of our discussions when suddenly her bottom lip curled outward, she lowered her head, stopped taking but didn't shed any tears. This happened several times during the conversation. I was astonished about the force of her reaction, I would have liked her to shed also tears. Sorry I am saying that, of course I would like her to feel better and be happy again without her pain.
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My wife will sometimes do the Semi-Lip Curl and very rarely the full Lip Curl - she is more of a tears girl - which is the way I like it.
Your right about the observation that guys stop talking when they cry whereas women don't. My wife will talk and cry at the same time and she does a very cute wobbly voice thats gorgeous. If she is very upset the wobbly voices gets to the point where it's classed as sobbing and she tend to stop talking at that point because she can't form the words. I've see a few guys cry and yes most stop talking - I think because a wobbly emotional voice is a huge giveaway that your crying - if people have not seen your emotions they will immediately turn and watch if they hear the tell tale emotional voice. Oddly enough however, I can talk when I cry - not if I'm sobbing - but I'm able to speak (with an emotional voice) even with tears running down my face!
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Re: How weirdly specific (anal) I am regarding my dacryphilia
@Flatter: Based on what you gave me it's a semi lip curl so far. Were her lips parted or closed when her lip curled? Could you see her lips at all when she lowered her head? Was it still curled?
@Tearhunter: Based on what you said I'm guessing your wife is the Occasional sort
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TorNorth wrote:
@Tearhunter: Based on what you said I'm guessing your wife is the Occasional sort
I guess so, reason I did'nt select this first time around was because when she does do the Lip Curl thing it's almost always when she is crying hard - she never does it when she is crying softly
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Re: How weirdly specific (anal) I am regarding my dacryphilia
I don't think you're being weirdly specific. When a definition doesn't exist, we have to define things for ourselves. I just showed my gf this post and now we're debating whether or not we do this. It's just so subjective!
I've had several candid pictures taken of me while I was crying, so I looked back at them; basically, if you just looked at my lips in these pictures, it's difficult to tell that I'm actually crying. In fact, in some of them I look like I'm smiling. When I'm crying it definitely feels like my lips are curling from emotion, but it doesn't look that intense. God I'm tempted to post the picture because this is so hard to describe.
She almost always cries with her mouth closed. She can talk just fine while crying, but a couple times a minute she will pause, press her lips together, do an intense BLT and sob once or twice, and then her face relaxes and she can talk again. This only happens during conversation or argument. When she's just crying without trying to communicate anything, there's usually no BLT, but her lips just quiver constantly and only open if a tear rolls over them. Or if she laughs.
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It's interesting that you have candid pictures taken of you while crying. Was there an occasion (wedding, funeral) or was it just something random? Does your girlfriend's lip quiver while her mouth is open?
@Tearhunter: If your wife always does the BLT while crying intensely, I might just put her in the full BLT category.
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One of the pictures was taken as I was saying goodbye to some friends from Italy who I had not seen in years. I was hugging one of them and the other pulled out her camera just as I was starting to cry, and she got a picture of me with a sort-of BLT and a tear running down my cheek. The others were from various random things. I was blotting tears from my eyes after learning that I had won a contest that was important to me. In another one I was crying because I had gotten a really, really sweet and thoughtful present. That sort of thing. If someone took a picture of me during a funeral I'd be kind of creeped out. As for weddings, I know to smile whenever the cameraman's around, so none of those pictures have my lip curl.
And no, my girlfriend's lips don't quiver when her mouth is open. I'm suspecting the lip quiver is her trying to suppress the lip curl. But she won't admit it.
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@Tearhunter: If your wife always does the BLT while crying intensely, I might just put her in the full BLT category.
Don't think she warrants the full BLT category to be honest. Yes, if she is very upset (and it needs to be very intense) then yes the BLT is there but it is extremely rare (a handful of times in 15 years) - 90% of her crying episodes do not have any lip movement (wobbly, emotional voice only) - 9% have a trembling lip and light sobbing and 1% (if that) has full BLT.
Other features always come with the BLT actually which is why I can categorise the intensity. It's always accompanied with loud sobbing, bawling or howling some would call it - almost child like. Her shoulders and stomach will heave and shudder uncontrollably. She will be shaking like a leaf, tembling - if she is standing she will collapse into a chair or fall to the floor. Huge tear drops will stream from her eyes almost continuously - her face, neck and top will be visible soaked with tears. It will last about 10 - 15 minutes and be following by quieter crying and tears for up to an hour plus until she is exhausted.
It is incredible intense and heartbreaking to witness as her husband - just witnessing it has reduced me to tears twice!
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You could see her lips when she lowered the head, they were closed. It brought a child to my mind, you call it pouting?, not ment in an cruel sence just the analogy of it. Such horrible pain maybe makes us want to fell like a child again with a mother hugging us and kissing all the tears away, holding us tight and you just know, that everything is going to be ok again.